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Will established analyst firms become dinosaurs to the new media-oriented analysts?

Published 14 October 2007, 03:37 PM

Marketing guru and author Seth Godin in his post It (almost) always happens this way discusses how established companies are wedded to the status quo and are slow to change. New companies without the assets of the established companies will grab every new thing out there to try to compete. Often the new companies win over time because they are not stifled by the status quo. Not exactly a new or brilliant insight, but it got me thinking about the analyst marketplace.
 
Today there are the established firms (e.g., AMR, Forrester, Gartner and IDC) that have been around since the 1980’s that on the surface have not changed all that much. Then there are the insurgents like Gartner alumni Vinnie Mirchandani at
Deal Architect and James Governor of Redmonk with his Monkchips blog who claim that that they are becoming just as influential as the dinosaur firms. As a consequence, we in the AR community should pay just as much attention to them as old firms.

 

Hmmm. What’s a poor simple AR practitioner to do? First off, are the established firms really ignoring new media and are the insurgents really innovative users of new media?

 

Gartner is using its size and financial strength to get into new media more than any other firm. The Talking Technology audio magazine is now available on website as streaming media and not just on CD. There are blogs by analyst teams, both topical and ongoing, though there are relatively few blogs. The Gartner Voice podcast is available on iTunes. There is streaming media from conferences. Finally, Gartner set up a Blogger Lounge at US Spring Symposium. Gartner is also promoting its new media offering. Well, it looks like Gartner has embraced the new media. While none of the Gartner blogs are yet in Technobabble 2.0's Top 100 Analyst Blogs list, it will be interesting to see what will happen if Gartner decides to promote them. 

 

The other analyst firms are not nearly as aggressive. With the exception of Charlene Li, later joined by Josh Bernoff, Forrester has been very tentative about new media. There are a few Forrester blogs, but the only podcasts are behind the paywall and are short term experiments. Plus, Forrester does not actively promote the blogs and I have a heck of time finding out about new blogs. AMR has put its toe in the water with two podcasts – First Thing Monday and Research Matters with eWeek – but no blogs. Frankly, the most lame established firm when it comes to new media is IDC with a single blog – IDC eXchange -- by Frank Gens, which gets very few and infrequent posts. There is a companion podcast but it is merely Frank reading his blog entry. Very boring.

 

The insurgents are using blogs, but making relatively little use of other forms of new media that I can find. For instance, Redmonk as a podcast, but it has only had three episodes since May 1st. Plus, it is really difficult to find evidence that they are influential whether by directly impacting HP’s sales deals or broadly impacting market perception. The insurgent bloggers all want me and other AR professionals to take it as an article of faith that even though there is no proof that they are influential. That is nice, but they all demand hard proof from HP and other vendors about our claims. Isn’t it a little inconsistent of them to want to be exempted from providing proof? However, my early research is that IT executives are reading blogs – more on that in a later post – so the insurgents aren’t completely full of hot air. But my problem is that of all the bloggers, which ones are really influential?

 

For HP’s Corporate AR this is a really serious issue because we do not have unlimited resources and have to prioritize our efforts. I’m not picking sides and keeping my eyes open to the possibilities of refocusing my efforts.

 

BTW, is the whole “dinosaurs versus insurgents” thing really a red herring? Perhaps there is opportunity for both communities to grow their influence and thrive. More on that in a later post.

 

Bottom Line: Established firms had better join Gartner on the new media bandwagon or risk been seen as so last century. This would lead to them drifting lower on my priority list of firms to brief. Insurgents relying on blogs should expand into other forms of new media and have got to do a better job of demonstrating their influence on markets relative to my charter. Otherwise they will not get some of Corporate AR’s precious bandwidth and senior executive time. While I’ll continue to research this, there is no guarantee that I will stumble across the impact of any particular blog on the market’s perception of HP so it is incumbent upon the insurgents to generate some proof about their specific influence. For Corporate AR itself, this evolving influencer landscape means we can never assume but must always probe and research who’s who in the influence game.  (Posted by Carter Lusher)
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Nice post, reinforcing the belief of those of us in the analyst community that the new era of influence comes from information dissemination, and not from subscriber lock-in. This is more than just a "belief" - we've researched this with the end user community and we know that people take their advice in multiple channels, and so it should be served up as such. I'm less keen on podcasts myself, possibly because I'm visual rather than auditory - or possibly because I never seem to find the time! - but I have no doubt we should be doing more to ensure our advice gets out there as effectively as possible.
# Monday, October 15, 2007 04:19 AM by jon_collins
Hi Jon, Thanks for the comment. Can you share your research about end users using multiple channels of advice? Size of survey base, methodology, etc? It would add facts to the conversation. It's a given that people read blogs. What I am still puzzling about are: a) To what extent are the analyst blogs influencing enterprise and large government organization IT purchase decisions? b) Which analyst blogs have influence? Just a couple of simple questions ;->
# Monday, October 15, 2007 09:48 AM by carter_lusher_at_hp_com
Hi Carter, here's a good start (and check the comments threads from Dale as well), do let me know if you have any more questions after that! Cheers, Jon http://technobabble2dot0.wordpress.com/2007/08/08/the-black-hole-of-industry-analysts-smb/
# Monday, October 15, 2007 11:09 AM by jon_collins
Thanks!
# Monday, October 15, 2007 11:28 AM by carter_lusher_at_hp_com
Here are six other Forrester blogs, links taken right off of Charlene's and my blog (go to our blog at blogs.forrester.com/charleneli and scroll down and look on the right): * IT Infrastructure & Operations * Michael Rasmussen - Governance, Risk & Compliance Intelligentsia * From Information To Knowledge Management * Security & Risk Management Blog * Bricks To Clicks: The Details Of Retail * Forrester's Marketing Blog The challenge is, analysts are busy and our clients expect us to keep some of the insights in the the research collection they're paying for. And still a lot of us take time to do this since it helps keep us in touch. That's a pretty big list in the comment from jon collins. We also just hired Jeremiah Owyang, a top blogger who blogs at www.web-strategist.com Is that dinosaur enough for you?
# Monday, October 15, 2007 03:32 PM by jbernoff
Hi Josh, Thanks. It's interesting that you pointed out the list/links are from the Groundswell blog, not forrester.com. As I pointed out, it's finding out about the Forrester blogs that is the problem because Forrester does not particularly promote the blogs. When I visit forrester.com, the blogs are nowhere easy to find. They are buried in a tab and "below the fold" where the links are certain to be missed. The G-men on the other hand, have boxes about blogs and podcasts on the home page, in the center column and high enough to always be seen. == BTW, I had found all these blogs, but it was annoying and there are a lot of folks with neither the skills nor patience to seek out Forrester's blogs.
# Monday, October 15, 2007 04:07 PM by carter_lusher_at_hp_com
Josh, Continuing on your comment. "Is that dinosaur enough for you?" Bigger question… is the whole “dinosaurs versus insurgents” thing really a red herring? Does it really matter if Forrester is not putting as much effort into its analyst blogging as other firms? (BTW, it almost sounds like some of the blogs are almost a personal activity of the analysts to keep in touch, not something that Forrester considers part of the ‘regular job.’) Do you agree or disagree with the proposition that Forrester’s and other major firms’ influence is waning because the insurgents are more effectively exploiting blogs?
# Monday, October 15, 2007 04:41 PM by carter_lusher_at_hp_com
Geez, I can't help asking another question. Will Jeremiah continue to be an avid blogger or will a significant portion of his commentary be published as traditional research for clients only?
# Monday, October 15, 2007 04:42 PM by carter_lusher_at_hp_com
OK, not my place to comment on corporate policy, really, but I think you can expect our blog presence to grow. Jeremiah, like Charlene and me, will continue to blog for everybody, and will do research that's accessible to our clients.
# Monday, October 15, 2007 04:58 PM by PublicPassport
Good post, Carter. My take on your "simple" questions is (a) wrt extent of analyst blog influence - not much. Senior decision makers tend not (today) to read blogs. (b) wrt analyst blog influence - analysts have influence, or not. Blogging may affect their accessibility, but it won't increase their influence overall. Reach is only one of several dimensions of influence. Beware of technobabble rankings and others - influence is not a popularity contest, so links don't measure influence. I've posted further and linked to this here http://www.influencer50.com/infuse/2007/10/hps-lusher-on-ar-and-social-media.html Cheers,
# Tuesday, October 16, 2007 07:43 AM by duncan.brown@influencer50.com
Hi Duncan, Thanks for the comment. I agree that popularity - whether blog readership or press quotes - does not necessarily translate into influence. That is why it is important for the insurgents to develop means to demonstrate their impact in the marketplace.
# Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:18 AM by carter_lusher_at_hp_com
It's interesting that you discuss the potential of large analyst firms turning into dinosaurs. Since the telecoms bubble burst in 2000, the large firms have struggled. Overhead is high. The model of these firms is very segmented. I am CEO of a boutique analyst firm, The Shosteck Group, which has been focused on the mobile industry since 1983. When the "industry" went global in the early 1990s we were ready to address it. Because we are a small firm, we are nimble. Our model is flexible. We are not segmented -- rather we are able to address the changing ecosystem very quickly. Our model is to work with other small consulting firms -- similar in size to The Shosteck Group -- to provide services which rival even the largest of the firms..This is true both in terms of quality and personal attention. It is for this reason that a firm such as The Shosteck Group has survived during the worst of downturns. The problem is that large companies such as HP plan budgets with the big companies in mind...and have to give some service to the big firms. Small firms get crumbs if we are lucky. It would serve companies such as HP to study the analyst marketplace more carefully and decide how best to spend budgets! Jane Zweig, CEO, The Shosteck Group
# Sunday, October 28, 2007 10:47 AM by jzweig1
Hi Jane, Thanks for the comments and background on the Shosteck Group. I completely agree that it is difficult for smaller firms to get the attention of behemoths like HP. Part of the issue is awareness about a smaller firm. Doing research proactively looking for specialized firms is difficult for many AR teams that are very lean staff wise. Some tips: a) If you are looking for contract opportunities you should focus on those at HP with the budget (see "Who's Who in HP -- Who educates the analysts and who buys analysts' services") b) Have your end user clients tell HP sales reps that they rely on your research to make decisions. The end user clients should also tell the HP sales rep to communicate this to the HP Corporate AR department. The more HP customers that tell us they use specialized firms, the more attention that firm will get. c) Increase your visibility in the market. I googled Shosteck Group and got only 6,600 hits (versus 770,000 hits for Gartner Magic Quadrant). When I went over to Google News there were only four quotes, three of which were on the Sprint CEO change. Get more visibility in the press on issues relevant to HP and quotes specifically on HP will get our attention.
# Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:08 AM by carter_lusher_at_hp_com
Thanks for your comments...Some of your "hits" reflect that The Shosteck Group used to be called Herschel Shosteck Associates. We made a name change several years ago. Not to pat myself on the shoulder, but if you Google my name you should get a ton of quotes (341,000) as I am often quoted in Wall Street Journal, USA Today, Financial Times, etc...But I will take your comments to heart.
# Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:17 AM by jzweig1
Carter Don't get swept away by the thinking that Blogs are the modern be all and end all when it comes to new forms of influence. The modern world embraces many other forms.
# Sunday, October 28, 2007 12:06 PM by locktd6
"What is a 'new media analyst firm'"? 1) analysts research 'new media' technologies 2) analysts research 'new media' technologies within a communications, business, consumer, government... framework 3) analysts use a wide variety of 'new media' technologies for building communities of clients, as well as non-clients 4) analysts "practice what they preach" -- 'new media' technologies are leveraged to build internal communities of practice. Would the firm publish case study research on their own experiences? 5) analysts are actively involved in the holistic 'new media' movement (they 'walk the talk') Carter, you ask "Hmmm. What’s a poor simple AR practitioner to do? First off, are the established firms really ignoring new media and are the insurgents really innovative users of new media?" The successful AR practitioner cares about which firms (and specifically individual analysts) have industry clout. By its viral nature, use of 'new media' is a means of getting Google hits, but not necessarily clout. If the AR practitioner is seeking a storage analyst, does it matter whether that analyst or firm is 'new media' savvy? Will that analyst be advising enterprise and vendor clients that use 'new media' as their preferred means for seeking information? Probably not. Bottom lines: - Entrepreneurial analyst firms are generally agile -- often the early adopters. They are usually independent firms, many of which are using 'new media' as viral marketing to build clout. - "Established analyst firms" (i.e., tier 1) can glide along on their reputations for a long time. - There is a groundswell of independent firms that need to be taken seriously by "established firms," because of their increasing collective clout. - "New media" is merely, once agin, the current sexy term de jour. In Marshall McLuhan's day, "new media" was television. Maurene Caplan Grey http://www.grey-consulting.com
# Sunday, October 28, 2007 01:56 PM by maurene_grey_at_grey-consulting_com
Hi locktd6, Thanks for the comment. I completely agree that there are additional forms of communications/interactions that need to be added to the mix like social networking. And don't forget the old forms like the good old telephone as well. The key question in this context is how does AR discover what forms of delivery the analysts are using are influential and why. The worst aspect for many of us is that it is becoming increasingly difficult to determine what and whom are relevant and influential. This could be bad news for smaller firms at some AR teams just default to the major firms.
# Sunday, October 28, 2007 03:22 PM by carter_lusher_at_hp_com
Hi Maurene, Thanks for the very thoughtful comment. On the point “…their increasing collective clout…”, does the collective aspect masks the individual clout? If that is the case then it increases the likelihood that traditional AR might miss an interesting “entrepreneurial analyst firms.”
# Sunday, October 28, 2007 03:28 PM by carter_lusher_at_hp_com
Carter, greetings. Where exactly did you see me claim I am as influential as an analyst firm? A far more accurate comparison would be small firms like mine are Lilliputs to your Gulliver. Individually you can choose to engage or not with them, but collectively they represent a growing market influence. While I represent just one perspective, might help to explain our business model and the 3 tracks in how we interact with vendors: a) CIO advisory services. We help clients evaluate technology solutions and negotiate various technology contracts. We derive majority of our revenues from buyers. When we work with vendors it is when they are themselves procuring technology. So very different from analyst firms which get a sizable percent of revenue from vendors. The best time to "brief" this track of our business is during a competitive evaluation with a solution customized to the client's needs or RFP. Clearly, only vendors invited to that client situation are allowed that opportunity for such a conversation. b) I also happen to write 2 blogs - New Florence, New Renaissance, which focuses on innovation in technology and Deal Architect, which focuses on economics of technology. Our sources for blog materials vary between the two. On the New Florence blog, I welcome citations from vendors which showcase how a customer has taken advantage of something alpha or beta from their labs. I have cited HP a few times on that blog based on our own research, without a press release from you. But if you have something truly innovative which a customer can vouch for, I would welcome a ping. c) On the Deal Architect blog, a number of topics are driven by market trends we see in our advisory business. The best way for vendors to engage there is through blog comments or through a guest column. So when I quote BusinessWeek saying HP printer ink is more expensive than like amount of Dom Perignon, make your case why you think your pricing is justified. Or when I ask why your CIO tells the world he is going to cut his IT spend in half, why your customers cannot expect similar advice around their spend with HP, debate me why what's good for HP is not good for your customers. So across the 3 channels - our advisory business, New Florence and Deal Architect blogs - we touch a number of industry buyers. Far more in numbers and global reach than you would think a small firm could. Let's not get delusional, though - compared to Gartner, our individual influence is puny. But many of us Lilliputs are banding together. My advisory firm goes to market with a couple of larger consulting firms. I am part of a group of bloggers called the Enterprise Irregulars. Carter, these guys are smarter than the talent we represented at Gartner and are pioneering thoughts around enterprise software, emerging web 2,0 and SaaS markets. There are other similar other groups in other technology categories. You have to make up your mind whether it is worthwhile to engage with small firms and bloggers at all - and whether one on one, or through groups like the Irregulars. But I can tell you traditional analyst briefings do not work as well - you have to be ready for interactive and transparent conversation. And you will find most of these firms are far more independent than industry analysts.
# Monday, October 29, 2007 09:38 AM by vmirchan_at_att_net
Good afternoon Carter, I received your "Heads Up" email about the blog. Thank you. I'll be sure to keep tabs on it. I responded to a similar post at Skip's Cisco blog. I'm going to comment briefly here, but you can read a few more of my thoughts over there. I believe your emphasis on "influence" is misguided and, perhaps, a product of traditional thinking about the analyst industry. Oddly, it is a perspective shared by the so-called "new media insurgents". Live and learn. Your quest to find evidence that analysts [new media or otherwise] have a measurable impact on HP sales will only end in disappointment. Not because we have no impact, but because there is no reliable, meaningful [even remotely accurate] method with which to measure analyst "influence" (esp. one firm relative to another). When you consider the numerous sources and types of influence, what does it mean when a customer tells HP that it "relies upon analyst X's research to make decisions"? One would like to think that your team probes more deeply than that to understand decision-making processes. Unfortunately, an AR team (if a company is lucky enough to have one) usually does not have the resources or bandwidth to do so. Most AR teams rely upon the same easy-to-obtain, inaccurate, misleading metrics such as Google search result counts, blogs, and quotes in the press. If you figure out a way to correlate those metrics with customer buying habits let me know. I will leave you with this: shift your focus from influence to analytics. I'm not suggesting that you abandon influence..just reprioritize it. If you'd like a dozen important analytical questions [about HP and its customers] most "analyst" firms cannot answer, let me know. In fact, you might dare to take the same list to your internal sales, marketing and competitive intelligence teams. Oftentimes they cannot answer the questions either. That, Carter, is the problem affecting HP's top and bottom line - not influence. P.S. Please, oh please have the development team add a feature to preserve carriage returns in blog comments. Huge single-paragraph responses are an eyesore.
# Monday, October 29, 2007 02:42 PM by jmartins_at_datamobilitygroup_com
Thanks for the RedMonk mentions. However, I'd like to correct that we do a lot of podcasts, just maybe not audio as much as we used to. We produce the RedMonkTV channel in Podtech which has 2-3 videos a week. Check it out http://www.redmonk.com/tv/ (and the Podtech page here: http://www.podtech.net/home/category/tech/redmonk/). As for the influence of that, the Eclipse series we did -- which was commissioned by Eclipse -- received a ton of hits and many Eclipse users have commented that they were helpful. The discussions with open source and closed source (project) leaders have had similar effect - but it's hard to beat a screencast-lead discussion for broad impact.
# Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:38 AM by bushwald
Gartner blogs need a serious redesign if they are going to make the top 100 of analyst blogs or attract readers. The current blog homepage resembles a graveyard where visitors can't tell the difference between the stale blogs that haven't had a post since 2006 and the active blogs. I can't find an active Gartner blog aggregator or an active community style homepage. I think the practice of running a blog for a short period of time and then retiring it is flawed - such as the Gartner predicts blog for each year. You throw away your readers and hope they can find you again when you start up the next one months later. A set of permanent blogs with seasonal or temporary themes would work better.
# Tuesday, October 30, 2007 06:55 PM by vincent.mcburney
As one of the Irregulars that Vinnie refers to I take some umbrage at the way you swat 'our' purported non-influence based as it is on the extent to which *we* use new media. Far be it for me to defend others but you are factually incorrect regarding Rednonk's use of new media. More important, rather than brandish the Big Names, ask where and how we are being requested to provide opinion. You might be surprised. As for dissing Vinnie - I guess you've known him for some time - as have I. If so then you will also know he is a titan in supporting tech buyers. They are the final arbiters. Not Gartner or any other analyst firm. Check the influence analysis stats. If new media teaches us anything it is that the customers voice is finally being heard. When thinking about that I'd suggest asking where do the Gartners of this world draw their most profitable revenue?
# Tuesday, October 30, 2007 09:42 PM by dahowlett
As one of the Irregulars that Vinnie refers to I take some umbrage at the way you swat 'our' purported non-influence based as it is on the extent to which *we* use new media. Far be it for me to defend others but you are factually incorrect regarding Rednonk's use of new media. More important, rather than brandish the Big Names, ask where and how we are being requested to provide opinion. You might be surprised. As for dissing Vinnie - I guess you've known him for some time - as have I. If so then you will also know he is a titan in supporting tech buyers. They are the final arbiters. Not Gartner or any other analyst firm. Check the influence analysis stats. If new media teaches us anything it is that the customers voice is finally being heard. When thinking about that I'd suggest asking where do the Gartners of this world draw their most profitable revenue?
# Tuesday, October 30, 2007 09:43 PM by dahowlett
... alas it will be a couple of days before I can respond. I took yesterday off to run up to Carneros to taste some pinot noirs and today I am up to my eyebrows catching up on the day job. Looking forward to continuing the discussion.
# Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:30 AM by carter_lusher_at_hp_com
Carter... So, blogging can become a full-time job. Not to worry, you'll respond when you can. -- Re: your response to my original post entitled "Is there a 'new media' analyst firm?" -- (Carter) “…their increasing collective clout…”, does the collective aspect masks the individual clout? If that is the case then it increases the likelihood that traditional AR might miss an interesting “entrepreneurial analyst firms.” -- (Maurene) The seasoned AR practitioners should already know who are the independent star analysts. Once an analyst is no longer married to a large firm, the analyst is free to expand her sphere of influence. Neglecting to remain in contact at some level means that the AR practitioner loses a good resource and networking connection. As some of my colleagues in earlier posts note, there is a community of independent analysts that work together either as part of a structured format (e.g., TAC Advisory), semi-structured format (Enterprise Irregulars) or informal format (one or more analysts decide to 'connect' by sharing information, leads and even sitting in on each other's vendor briefings, as relevant). --- Bottom Line ---- 1)The AR practitioner needs to be cognizant that the analyst community no longer comprises "them" and "us." Rather, there are the 1) traditional Gartners, Burton Groups, 2) independents (many of which are former stars from the traditional firms) and 3) flavors of independent analyst communities. ---- 2) To remain viable, the AR practitioners need to extend their reach to the third group. The newly emerging independents and flavors of independent communities will increasingly become influential -- particularly those that leverage new media for viral marketing. --- - Maurene
# Wednesday, October 31, 2007 03:26 PM by maurene_grey_at_grey-consulting_com
As one of the Irregulars that Vinnie refers to I take some umbrage at the way you swat 'our' purported non-influence based as it is on the extent to which *we* use new media. Far be it for me to defend others but you are factually incorrect regarding Rednonk's use of new media. More important, rather than brandish the Big Names, ask where and how we are being requested to provide opinion. You might be surprised. As for dissing Vinnie - I guess you've known him for some time - as have I. If so then you will also know he is a titan in supporting tech buyers. They are the final arbiters. Not Gartner or any other analyst firm. Check the influence analysis stats. If new media teaches us anything it is that the customers voice is finally being heard. When thinking about that I'd suggest asking where do the Gartners of this world draw their most profitable revenue?
# Thursday, November 01, 2007 03:53 AM by dahowlett
Our CIO Survey is almost certainly the largest technology buyer survey focussed on analyst influence -- blogs and new media hardly register. Jon refers to an analysis of bloggers' imortance which is, as he would admit, highly subjective. However, the volume of traffic is quite independent of the impact of the traffic on buying, which is the topic that will concern buyers. I touched on this last year: http://analystrelations.blogspot.com/2006/03/internet-underpins-analyst-influence.html [P.S. Carter, you mistakenly used the plural 'alumni' when you wrote of "Gartner alumni Vinnie Mirchandani at Deal Architect and James Governor of Redmonk"; Vinnie is a alumnus of that firm, James, I think, is not.]
# Thursday, November 01, 2007 05:38 AM by duncanchapple
Forgot to add another point in my section a) above. HP has been on at least 10 short and long lists my firm has evaluated for clients in the last 2 years - majority of them Fortune 500 clients. And we got enough info from your sales teams and other sources that we have not missed being on your AR target list. Honestly, my firm by itself does not have bandwidth for a bunch of briefings. When we get a request for a briefing I invite the Irregulars. We cover for each other in a number of areas.
# Thursday, November 01, 2007 09:09 AM by vmirchan
Forgot to add another point in my section a) above. HP has been on at least 10 short and long lists my firm has evaluated for clients in the last 2 years - majority of them Fortune 500 clients. And we got enough info from your sales teams and other sources that we have not missed being on your AR target list. Honestly, my firm by itself does not have bandwidth for a bunch of briefings. When we get a request for a briefing I invite the Irregulars. We cover for each other in a number of areas.
# Thursday, November 01, 2007 09:17 AM by vmirchan_at_att_net
Greetings. I am also one of the Enterprise Irregulars, but I come to you courtesy of Forrester's Jeremiah Owyang who alerted "us" in Twitterland to this post on his Twitter stream. Although your post is essentially about the use of new media which I agree with you on, I need to fall in on the discussion regarding "insurgent" influence vs. "dinosaur" influence over buyer decisions. This topic has been widely discussed lately in private forums and in the blogosphere as a result of Oracle's evolving AR practice. My company, BSG Alliance, has CXO relationships with more than half of the Fortune 500. We host private forums on a frequent basis on the strategic changes taking place involving a variety of issues including enterprise 2.0, enterprise applications, SaaS, SOA, as well as strategic management issues such as talent and the changing workforce. We are advisers and confidantes to your customers. Although it would be easy to discount my private blog as not as serious as Vinnie's, James', or Dennis'; it would be a mistake not to recognize the influence I have via my relationships I have in the blogosphere and with HP's ultimate customers and targets. Further, you're making a mistake if you don't recognize the incredible social web that links bloggers-- minute by minute, second by second, around the globe. The sun never sets on vendor reputation, in other words. Regarding buyers/customers making buyer decisions, I'm reminded of what David Ogilvy once cautioned young advertising execs: "The consumer is not a moron. She's your wife." IT execs are using the same tools we all use today to research and sift through the mountain of information available to make decisions. Um, it's not the telephone: 1-800-call-your-analyst-rep. It's Search. When they search for expertise on a topic, who emerges as the thought leader? Even my blog, as non-influential as it could be construed to be, is listed as one of the top 25 blogs on Technorati for Enterprise 2.0. There are a host of brilliant folks in the blogosphere. I'm certain there are brilliant folks at Gartner as well. I wish they'd join the conversation, personally. More fodder to keep the vendors honest. :-)
# Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:57 AM by ITSinsider
Forgot to add another point in my section a) above. HP has been on at least 10 short and long lists my firm has evaluated for clients in the last 2 years - majority of them Fortune 500 clients. And we got enough info from your sales teams and other sources that we have not missed being on your AR target list. Honestly, my firm by itself does not have bandwidth for a bunch of briefings. When we get a request for a briefing I invite the Irregulars. We cover for each other in a number of areas.
# Thursday, November 01, 2007 04:51 PM by vmirchan_at_att_net
Thanks everyone for producing such an interesting thread. The writing has been on the wall for some time pointing to a change in the tools and delivery of influence. My years at Giga and Forrester showed both the power and limitations of the GigaByte, Forrester Brief, or ForrTels. When I started my own firm, I put up one of the first blogs in the physical security industry. More importantly I was the first analyst to "publically critique" the $140 bn physical security industry. There were no analysts and never had been. That industry didn't have the concept of subscriptions. The blog, therefore, was a powerful weapon to blast my brand and influence into the collective consciousness of the phys sec industry. My blog became influential quickly - ask phys sec newcomers Cisco or IBM or any of the other big players in phys sec these days. But the Forrester model would have fallen flat.
# Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:05 PM by securitydreamer

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